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Steven Rinella talks with Backcountry Hunters and Anglers President and CEO Ryan Callaghan.
Topics discussed: Cal’s life as a new dad and new CEO; the BHA mission; creating coalitions, community, and giving a shit; how our natural resources are not guaranteed; politicians claiming to carry TR’s torch; throwing the baby out with the bathwater in regards to regulation; approaching rollbacks and management changes with clarity; motivation behind scrapping the Roadless Rule; the pitfalls of absolutism; corner crossing; being engaged in the minutiae; and more.
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"Ep. 892: Ryan Callaghan on Public Lands and Conservation" is an episode of The MeatEater Podcast. Runtime 2 hr 14 min. Published June 22, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.