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As the Saints come out of their bye week, there is some hope after what we saw from Shough against the Panthers. On this episode Jason recaps his trip, er suspension, the guys talk about what to expect during the second half of the season, and talk about Gayle's interview and the overall state of the 2 pro franchises. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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